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Default VS irony... - 01-12-2006 , 04:27 PM






VS rightfully points out that this is invalid:

<dt>hello
<dd>how are you></dd>

As you can't nest a DD inside a DT.

Yet VS feels that it is necessary to automatically delete all of my </dt>
tags for me when I try to fix this.

UGH.

-Darrel



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Default Re: VS irony... - 01-12-2006 , 05:54 PM






Wow! Haven't seen definition tables ( <dt> ) used in years. CSS?


"darrel" <notreal (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote

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VS rightfully points out that this is invalid:

dt>hello
dd>how are you></dd

As you can't nest a DD inside a DT.

Yet VS feels that it is necessary to automatically delete all of my </dt
tags for me when I try to fix this.

UGH.

-Darrel




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Default Re: VS irony... - 01-13-2006 , 10:36 AM



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Wow! Haven't seen definition tables ( <dt> ) used in years. CSS?
DT = definition term, part of a DL (definition list). I use them for
navigation these days.

-Darrel




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Default Re: VS irony... - 01-13-2006 , 10:46 PM



Yeah, it's been so long since I've seen them, I forgot the name!

Why not use CSS instead?


"darrel" <notreal (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote

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Wow! Haven't seen definition tables ( <dt> ) used in years. CSS?

DT = definition term, part of a DL (definition list). I use them for
navigation these days.

-Darrel




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Default Re: VS irony... - 01-19-2006 , 03:34 PM




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Yeah, it's been so long since I've seen them, I forgot the name!

Why not use CSS instead?
CSS just styles your HTML. I still need to markup the navigation in html.
DTs are nice as they can be used to clearly label the navigation areas. DLs
are fairly semantic, structurally sound, and can easily be manipulated with
the CSS.

-Darrel





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Default Re: VS irony... - 01-19-2006 , 09:51 PM



The use of the <SPAN> tag along with CSS for positioning and the ID
attribute along with DHTML for navigation would accomplish the same thing.
<DT> and <DL> have been deprecated for some time now.




"darrel" <notreal (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote

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Yeah, it's been so long since I've seen them, I forgot the name!

Why not use CSS instead?

CSS just styles your HTML. I still need to markup the navigation in html.
DTs are nice as they can be used to clearly label the navigation areas.
DLs are fairly semantic, structurally sound, and can easily be manipulated
with the CSS.

-Darrel






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Default Re: VS irony... - 01-20-2006 , 10:59 AM



Scott M. wrote:
Quote:
The use of the <SPAN> tag along with CSS for positioning and the ID
attribute along with DHTML for navigation would accomplish the same thing.
DT> and <DL> have been deprecated for some time now.




"darrel" <notreal (AT) nowhere (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Yeah, it's been so long since I've seen them, I forgot the name!

Why not use CSS instead?
CSS just styles your HTML. I still need to markup the navigation in html.
DTs are nice as they can be used to clearly label the navigation areas.
DLs are fairly semantic, structurally sound, and can easily be manipulated
with the CSS.

-Darrel

I like to use a div (positionned with CSS) with lists (ul and ol for
different levels, with li in them) in it (which are styled with CSS).
Works very well, and I find using lists for this quite semantic too.
Haven't had any issues with manged markup with VS either... But AFAIK,
even though not commonly used, dl and dt aren't deprecated in xhtml
(it's still part of the xhtml 1.1 list module)


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Default Re: VS irony... - 01-23-2006 , 06:37 PM



Quote:
The use of the <SPAN> tag along with CSS for positioning and the ID
attribute along with DHTML for navigation would accomplish the same thing.
No, it wouldn't. Visually it might be the same, but semantically, they
couldn't be further apart. SPANs mean absolutely nothing semantically. A DL
gives much more semantic meaning to a list of links.

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DT> and <DL> have been deprecated for some time now.
Are we talking about the same thing? Definition Lists are not deprecated and
are an ideal solution for creating semantic menus.

-Darrel




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