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Barry Kelly
 
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Default Re: Generics Question - 12-03-2007 , 11:02 AM






Ben Voigt [C++ MVP] wrote:

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"Barry Kelly" <barry.j.kelly (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Scott M. wrote:

My questions have
been about the observable results, not the purpose or under the hood
benefits of generics. I am asking for academic reasons.

Then there's a direct logical contradiction in your position: your
questions are for the "reasons", but not the "purpose" - but the purpose
is the reason!

You're drawing equivalence where there is none:

His reasons (asserted to be academic) for studying generics need not be the
same as the language designers' purpose for providing generics, even if the
words "reasons" and "purpose" be synonyms.
No, I misread his last sentence: when he said he was asking for academic
reasons, I interpreted that as him asking for the academic reasons
behind the design of generics, not that his reasons for asking were
academic.

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Default Re: Generics Question - 12-04-2007 , 12:49 PM







"Barry Kelly" <barry.j.kelly (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote

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Ben Voigt [C++ MVP] wrote:


"Barry Kelly" <barry.j.kelly (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:t444l3lvb2sv10k5iuqjdi3odvigkb3qig (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
Scott M. wrote:

My questions have
been about the observable results, not the purpose or under the hood
benefits of generics. I am asking for academic reasons.

Then there's a direct logical contradiction in your position: your
questions are for the "reasons", but not the "purpose" - but the
purpose
is the reason!

You're drawing equivalence where there is none:

His reasons (asserted to be academic) for studying generics need not be
the
same as the language designers' purpose for providing generics, even if
the
words "reasons" and "purpose" be synonyms.

No, I misread his last sentence: when he said he was asking for academic
reasons, I interpreted that as him asking for the academic reasons
behind the design of generics, not that his reasons for asking were
academic.
I can definitely see it that way too.

"I have academic reasons for asking." would have been far clearer.

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