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Mikey Baby
 
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Default Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-13-2007 , 09:58 AM






I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of days
work.

Any thoughts?

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George Shubin
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-13-2007 , 12:43 PM






Something's not right on your new machine.

My laptop is similar to your new PC: Core2Duo 2.2 gHz; 2GB RAM;
2xSATA7200rpm; VistaUltimate w/ Aero. Fairly vanilla installation. Using
Avast AntiVirus, not McAfee or Symantec bloaters.

I have no slowness issues with VS2003 or 2005. In fact, they definitely run
as fast or faster than on my old laptop, a single-core 3.0 gHz system
running XP-SP2.

GS


"Mikey Baby" <MikeyBaby (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on
another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on
either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of
days
work.

Any thoughts?

--
M.

MCDBA : MCSD


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Chad Moran
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-14-2007 , 10:48 AM



I have a Toshiba Laptop with these specs and I run Visual Studio Whidbey and
Visual Studio Orcas just fine.

Core2Duo 2.0Ghz 2GB of RAM, 5400PM HD and I have Vista Ultimate.

HTH

"George Shubin" <dx (AT) dxonline (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Something's not right on your new machine.

My laptop is similar to your new PC: Core2Duo 2.2 gHz; 2GB RAM;
2xSATA7200rpm; VistaUltimate w/ Aero. Fairly vanilla installation. Using
Avast AntiVirus, not McAfee or Symantec bloaters.

I have no slowness issues with VS2003 or 2005. In fact, they definitely
run as fast or faster than on my old laptop, a single-core 3.0 gHz system
running XP-SP2.

GS


"Mikey Baby" <MikeyBaby (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B63A9E7-D31F-43FE-BD39-7BDBA36834BF (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on
another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on
either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of
days
work.

Any thoughts?

--
M.

MCDBA : MCSD


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Chris Mullins [MVP - C#]
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-15-2007 , 11:39 AM



I'm using a current generation dual core machine with x86 Vista Ultimate,
and development performence is just fine.

I'm not running a virus scanner (they're worse than the virii), and using VS
2008, SQL 2005, and all the usual array of Office tools.

The difference in Vista performance on my current generation desktop, and my
older laptop is just unbelievable...

--
Chris Mullins

"Mikey Baby" <MikeyBaby (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on
another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on
either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of
days
work.

Any thoughts?

--
M.

MCDBA : MCSD



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Jeremy
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-16-2007 , 05:11 PM



I used to run xp, now use vista ultimate. running vs 2003, 2005, vmware,
sql server 2005, vss, office. ultimate is faster. running aero too.


"Mikey Baby" <MikeyBaby (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on
another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on
either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of
days
work.

Any thoughts?

--
M.

MCDBA : MCSD



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Alvin Bruney [MVP]
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-16-2007 , 08:36 PM



I have vista ultimate in a box on my desk agonizing over installing it on my
laptop. Is it worth it? this is single core with 2 gig of ram. I fear it
will shred my laptop. thoughts?

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"Chris Mullins [MVP - C#]" <cmullins (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I'm using a current generation dual core machine with x86 Vista Ultimate,
and development performence is just fine.

I'm not running a virus scanner (they're worse than the virii), and using
VS 2008, SQL 2005, and all the usual array of Office tools.

The difference in Vista performance on my current generation desktop, and
my older laptop is just unbelievable...

--
Chris Mullins

"Mikey Baby" <MikeyBaby (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B63A9E7-D31F-43FE-BD39-7BDBA36834BF (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on
another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on
either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of
days
work.

Any thoughts?

--
M.

MCDBA : MCSD





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Jon Skeet [C# MVP]
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-17-2007 , 01:33 AM



<"Alvin Bruney [MVP]" <some guy without an email address>> wrote:
Quote:
I have vista ultimate in a box on my desk agonizing over installing it on my
laptop. Is it worth it? this is single core with 2 gig of ram. I fear it
will shred my laptop. thoughts?
It's fine on my Inspiron 9300, which is a couple of years old but has a
good graphics card.

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George Shubin
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-17-2007 , 11:52 AM



Jeremy:

For me to get VS2003 running, I had to turn off IIS. How'd you get VS2003
running without turning off IIS? Or did you?

GS


"Jeremy" <nospam (AT) please (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I used to run xp, now use vista ultimate. running vs 2003, 2005, vmware,
sql server 2005, vss, office. ultimate is faster. running aero too.


"Mikey Baby" <MikeyBaby (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B63A9E7-D31F-43FE-BD39-7BDBA36834BF (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on
another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on
either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of
days
work.

Any thoughts?

--
M.

MCDBA : MCSD




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Andrew Faust
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-28-2007 , 11:46 PM



I had issues with Vista until MS pushes out a performance and application
compatability update. It's been great since. You should be fine making the
switch, just make sure you install all the updates.

--
Andrew Faust
andrew[at]andrewfaust.com
http://www.andrewfaust.com


"Mikey Baby" <MikeyBaby (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on
another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on
either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of
days
work.

Any thoughts?

--
M.

MCDBA : MCSD


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Ben Voigt [C++ MVP]
 
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Default Re: Is Vista too slow for Dev. work? - 10-29-2007 , 06:06 PM




"Andrew Faust" <andrew (AT) andrewfaust (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I had issues with Vista until MS pushes out a performance and application
compatability update. It's been great since. You should be fine making the
switch, just make sure you install all the updates.
On the same note, make sure it's VS2005 with SP1 and the SP1 vista patch.

Quote:
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andrew[at]andrewfaust.com
http://www.andrewfaust.com


"Mikey Baby" <MikeyBaby (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6B63A9E7-D31F-43FE-BD39-7BDBA36834BF (AT) microsoft (DOT) com...
I'm struggling to get an answer to this. I asked two months back on
another
forum and got no response. I asked on SQL forums but, of course, they use
WS2003.

So I'll be brief.

I have two PCs
Brand New PC: CoreDuo2.3/3.5gbRam/2xSATA7200rpm/VistaBusiness/NoAero
Old 2003 Laptop: Centrino1.4/512mbRam/1xIDE5400rpm/XPPro

Hardware wise, this new PC is at least twice the speed.

I use VS2005 Team Edition & SQL2005 Dev. Edition on both. No crap on
either
machine. Mostly Winforms, lots of data.

I've tried various tests: compiling, running, SQL throughput, loading
projects, etc.

My Laptop wins most tests. Some by quite a margin.

I'm obviously wasting development time while watching the hourglass. On
saying that, ditching Vista and jumping to XPPro/WS2003 is a couple of
days
work.

Any thoughts?

--
M.

MCDBA : MCSD




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