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Default Difference between VS2008 VB and VB 2008 enterprise? - 12-10-2007 , 01:48 PM






I don't understand the Enterprise editions that MS gives away.


If I only write VB what is the difference between buying and using VS2008
and downloading and using the VB enterprise edition?



If I write a solution containing VB and C# what is the difference?



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Default Re: Difference between VS2008 VB and VB 2008 enterprise? - 12-10-2007 , 02:15 PM






Academia <academiaNOSPAM (AT) a-znet (DOT) com> wrote:
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I don't understand the Enterprise editions that MS gives away.
Do you mean "Express"? Most would regard the Team Suite edition as
"Enterprise" (i.e. top level) whereas Express is the *bottom* level.

Quote:
If I only write VB what is the difference between buying and using VS2008
and downloading and using the VB enterprise edition?
There are various things "missing" from the express edition, although I
couldn't name them off the top of my head. It's probably easiest to try
it and see if there are things you think you need which aren't
available.

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If I write a solution containing VB and C# what is the difference?
I suspect you can't load a solution (or at least all the projects) with
a mixture of project languages in Express.

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Default Re: Difference between VS2008 VB and VB 2008 enterprise? - 12-10-2007 , 02:44 PM



Let me continue the thread based on what you replied:

If 'enterprise' (not express) is considered the 'top level', then is there
any reason an individual developer (not working in an enterprise) would need
a 'top level' (enterprise) tool to do something that the 'professional' tool
could not?

My understanding is the team suite (without looking at specs) had tools to
enable teams of developers to work together on a project, but for single
developers who were filling all the roles, there would be little-or-no
advantage from team suite. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

-Rob

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" wrote:

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Academia <academiaNOSPAM (AT) a-znet (DOT) com> wrote:
I don't understand the Enterprise editions that MS gives away.

Do you mean "Express"? Most would regard the Team Suite edition as
"Enterprise" (i.e. top level) whereas Express is the *bottom* level.

If I only write VB what is the difference between buying and using VS2008
and downloading and using the VB enterprise edition?

There are various things "missing" from the express edition, although I
couldn't name them off the top of my head. It's probably easiest to try
it and see if there are things you think you need which aren't
available.

If I write a solution containing VB and C# what is the difference?

I suspect you can't load a solution (or at least all the projects) with
a mixture of project languages in Express.

--
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http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet
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Default Re: Difference between VS2008 VB and VB 2008 enterprise? - 12-10-2007 , 03:01 PM



Sorry, I meant express


"RobertW" <RobertW (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Let me continue the thread based on what you replied:

If 'enterprise' (not express) is considered the 'top level', then is there
any reason an individual developer (not working in an enterprise) would
need
a 'top level' (enterprise) tool to do something that the 'professional'
tool
could not?

My understanding is the team suite (without looking at specs) had tools to
enable teams of developers to work together on a project, but for single
developers who were filling all the roles, there would be little-or-no
advantage from team suite. Please correct me if I am mistaken.

-Rob

"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" wrote:

Academia <academiaNOSPAM (AT) a-znet (DOT) com> wrote:
I don't understand the Enterprise editions that MS gives away.

Do you mean "Express"? Most would regard the Team Suite edition as
"Enterprise" (i.e. top level) whereas Express is the *bottom* level.

If I only write VB what is the difference between buying and using
VS2008
and downloading and using the VB enterprise edition?

There are various things "missing" from the express edition, although I
couldn't name them off the top of my head. It's probably easiest to try
it and see if there are things you think you need which aren't
available.

If I write a solution containing VB and C# what is the difference?

I suspect you can't load a solution (or at least all the projects) with
a mixture of project languages in Express.

--
Jon Skeet - <skeet (AT) pobox (DOT) com
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet
World class .NET training in the UK: http://iterativetraining.co.uk




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Default Re: Difference between VS2008 VB and VB 2008 enterprise? - 12-10-2007 , 03:06 PM



RobertW <RobertW (AT) discussions (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote:
Quote:
Let me continue the thread based on what you replied:

If 'enterprise' (not express) is considered the 'top level', then is there
any reason an individual developer (not working in an enterprise) would need
a 'top level' (enterprise) tool to do something that the 'professional' tool
could not?

My understanding is the team suite (without looking at specs) had tools to
enable teams of developers to work together on a project, but for single
developers who were filling all the roles, there would be little-or-no
advantage from team suite. Please correct me if I am mistaken.
Well, it *used* to be the case that Professional didn't contain unit
testing - which is very important, IMO. Fortunately, that's been
corrected for VS2008.

There are various other things which a single developer *might* want -
code analysis and profiling aren't available in Pro, for example. I
suspect there may be more modeling/deployment designers available in
Team Suite too. There may well be others - I personally use Pro without
any issues though

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Default Re: Difference between VS2008 VB and VB 2008 enterprise? - 12-10-2007 , 03:08 PM



If my post was code that would be a bug.
Your correct, I meant express.

Quote:
If I only write VB what is the difference between buying and using VS2008
and downloading and using the VB enterprise edition?

There are various things "missing" from the express edition, although I
couldn't name them off the top of my head. It's probably easiest to try
it and see if there are things you think you need which aren't
available.
Not easy to download over a modem.

Quote:
If I write a solution containing VB and C# what is the difference?

I suspect you can't load a solution (or at least all the projects) with
a mixture of project languages in Express.

But express does allow a solution with multiple projects as long as they're
the same language?

I did see a book about VB express so I know an IDE is there but it did not
say what was missing.


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Default Re: Difference between VS2008 VB and VB 2008 enterprise? - 12-10-2007 , 04:20 PM



Academia <academiaNOSPAM (AT) a-znet (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
I suspect you can't load a solution (or at least all the projects) with
a mixture of project languages in Express.

But express does allow a solution with multiple projects as long as they're
the same language?
Yes, it does.

Quote:
I did see a book about VB express so I know an IDE is there but it did not
say what was missing.
I think there is a comparison somewhere on the Visual Studio website,
but I'd be looking for it from scratch too.

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Default Re: Difference between VS2008 VB and VB 2008 enterprise? - 12-10-2007 , 07:59 PM



thanks
"Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <skeet (AT) pobox (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Academia <academiaNOSPAM (AT) a-znet (DOT) com> wrote:
I suspect you can't load a solution (or at least all the projects) with
a mixture of project languages in Express.

But express does allow a solution with multiple projects as long as
they're
the same language?

Yes, it does.

I did see a book about VB express so I know an IDE is there but it did
not
say what was missing.

I think there is a comparison somewhere on the Visual Studio website,
but I'd be looking for it from scratch too.

--
Jon Skeet - <skeet (AT) pobox (DOT) com
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet
World class .NET training in the UK: http://iterativetraining.co.uk



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