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Norman Diamond
 
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Default MS-ASCII - 12-04-2007 , 03:02 AM






Though I can't quite figure out how to do what this page recommends:
"Creating a Database with a Neutral Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368057.aspx
I do appreciate that the author of that page understands ASCII.

Now, would it be possible for the author of the above page to teach the
author(s) of the following two pages:

"Localizing the Error and ActionText Tables"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369771.aspx
with its table of many "ASCII code page" numbers

"Checking the Installation Database Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367857.aspx
"a list of ASCII code pages"


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Serge Wautier
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-04-2007 , 11:07 AM






Norman,

What about clicking the 'Send comments about this topic to Microsoft' link
in the bottom of these pages rather than posting here where it's totally
useless.

Serge.
http://www.apptranslator.com

"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond (AT) community (DOT) nospam> wrote

Quote:
Though I can't quite figure out how to do what this page recommends:
"Creating a Database with a Neutral Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368057.aspx
I do appreciate that the author of that page understands ASCII.

Now, would it be possible for the author of the above page to teach the
author(s) of the following two pages:

"Localizing the Error and ActionText Tables"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369771.aspx
with its table of many "ASCII code page" numbers

"Checking the Installation Database Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367857.aspx
"a list of ASCII code pages"


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Norman Diamond
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-04-2007 , 06:03 PM



The 'Send comments about this topic to Microsoft' links are totally useless.
I used to try them.


"Serge Wautier" <serge_dontusethisaddress (AT) mailinator (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Norman,

What about clicking the 'Send comments about this topic to Microsoft' link
in the bottom of these pages rather than posting here where it's totally
useless.

Serge.
http://www.apptranslator.com

"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond (AT) community (DOT) nospam> wrote in message
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Though I can't quite figure out how to do what this page recommends:
"Creating a Database with a Neutral Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368057.aspx
I do appreciate that the author of that page understands ASCII.

Now, would it be possible for the author of the above page to teach the
author(s) of the following two pages:

"Localizing the Error and ActionText Tables"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369771.aspx
with its table of many "ASCII code page" numbers

"Checking the Installation Database Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367857.aspx
"a list of ASCII code pages"



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Mihai N.
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-04-2007 , 09:34 PM



Quote:
Though I can't quite figure out how to do what this page recommends:
....
"a list of ASCII code pages"
Should we wonder that the msi still does not support Unicode
(UTF-8 or anything else) as one of those ASCII code pages?


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Norman Diamond
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-05-2007 , 03:13 AM



"Mihai N." <nmihai_year_2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Though I can't quite figure out how to do what this page recommends:
...
"a list of ASCII code pages"

Should we wonder that the msi still does not support Unicode (UTF-8 or
anything else) as one of those ASCII code pages?
If the implementation question isn't rhetorical then shouldn't we ask about
ANSI code pages? (My posting concerned MSDN.)



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Mihai N.
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-05-2007 , 11:39 PM



Quote:
If the implementation question isn't rhetorical then shouldn't we ask about
ANSI code pages? (My posting concerned MSDN.)
The code pages in MSDN are definitely ANSI code pages, yes.
But I am not sure I understand the question.
My post was just making fun, no real sugestions about implementation :-)


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Norman Diamond
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-06-2007 , 01:15 AM



"Mihai N." <nmihai_year_2000 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
If the implementation question isn't rhetorical then shouldn't we ask
about ANSI code pages? (My posting concerned MSDN.)

The code pages in MSDN are definitely ANSI code pages, yes.
Code pages are ANSI code pages. ASCII is either half of a code page or a
very small code page (128 values). My posting wondered if some MSDN writer
who understood the difference could teach some MSDN writer who didn't
understand the difference.



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Mihai N.
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-06-2007 , 01:50 AM



Quote:
Code pages are ANSI code pages. ASCII is either half of a code page or a
very small code page (128 values).
You can imagine that I know the difference between ASCII and ANSI :-D
I was just making fun, ok?

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Michael S. Kaplan [MSFT]
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-06-2007 , 08:13 AM



Useless to who, exactly?

One doesn't get milk by beating the cow -- perhaps if your subtle sarcasm,
dripping with scorn, does not fns as many receptive ears as you might like,
you would eventually change the approach?

Or not, in this case. Those links go to the right place, and the right
people. They do.

Note that your contributions vie for attention with those genuinely confused
and those who have a kinder tone as well as those who work harder to be
clear in what they are trying to say. Is it that hard to imagine why the
ruder ones might be looked at with a more skeptical eye?

MichKa

"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond (AT) community (DOT) nospam> wrote

Quote:
The 'Send comments about this topic to Microsoft' links are totally
useless. I used to try them.


"Serge Wautier" <serge_dontusethisaddress (AT) mailinator (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:uvZcfgpNIHA.1208 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP03 (DOT) phx.gbl...
Norman,

What about clicking the 'Send comments about this topic to Microsoft'
link in the bottom of these pages rather than posting here where it's
totally useless.

Serge.
http://www.apptranslator.com

"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond (AT) community (DOT) nospam> wrote in message
news:epmWzRlNIHA.4808 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP05 (DOT) phx.gbl...
Though I can't quite figure out how to do what this page recommends:
"Creating a Database with a Neutral Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368057.aspx
I do appreciate that the author of that page understands ASCII.

Now, would it be possible for the author of the above page to teach the
author(s) of the following two pages:

"Localizing the Error and ActionText Tables"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369771.aspx
with its table of many "ASCII code page" numbers

"Checking the Installation Database Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367857.aspx
"a list of ASCII code pages"





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Norman Diamond
 
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Default Re: MS-ASCII - 12-07-2007 , 01:50 AM



When I tried those links, just as when I originally tried various other
methods of feedback, I did not start out with sarcasm and scorn. Microsoft
works very hard to earn sarcasm and scorn.

Latest was Windows Update Catalog, for which Microsoft provides a feedback
link and doesn't charge a fee. I reported a sequence of two problems which
prevent installing a downloaded driver. Microsoft replied politely with a
set of five lies. I replied politely with an explanation of what happens in
each case. Microsoft replied politely with zero corrections and more lies.
I replied politely again. Microsoft replied politely with zero corrections
and more lies. If I had time, I would send off sarcasm and scorn, but I
didn't have time for it right then so I just dropped it. Microsoft nearly
always earns sarcasm and scorn. Exceptions are far rarer than the usual
kinds of exceptions we get from Windows.


"Michael S. Kaplan [MSFT]" <michka (AT) online (DOT) microsoft.com> wrote

Quote:
Useless to who, exactly?

One doesn't get milk by beating the cow -- perhaps if your subtle sarcasm,
dripping with scorn, does not fns as many receptive ears as you might
like, you would eventually change the approach?

Or not, in this case. Those links go to the right place, and the right
people. They do.

Note that your contributions vie for attention with those genuinely
confused and those who have a kinder tone as well as those who work harder
to be clear in what they are trying to say. Is it that hard to imagine why
the ruder ones might be looked at with a more skeptical eye?

MichKa

"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond (AT) community (DOT) nospam> wrote in message
news:u0mTCJtNIHA.4948 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP02 (DOT) phx.gbl...
The 'Send comments about this topic to Microsoft' links are totally
useless. I used to try them.


"Serge Wautier" <serge_dontusethisaddress (AT) mailinator (DOT) com> wrote in
message news:uvZcfgpNIHA.1208 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP03 (DOT) phx.gbl...
Norman,

What about clicking the 'Send comments about this topic to Microsoft'
link in the bottom of these pages rather than posting here where it's
totally useless.

Serge.
http://www.apptranslator.com

"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond (AT) community (DOT) nospam> wrote in message
news:epmWzRlNIHA.4808 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP05 (DOT) phx.gbl...
Though I can't quite figure out how to do what this page recommends:
"Creating a Database with a Neutral Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa368057.aspx
I do appreciate that the author of that page understands ASCII.

Now, would it be possible for the author of the above page to teach the
author(s) of the following two pages:

"Localizing the Error and ActionText Tables"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa369771.aspx
with its table of many "ASCII code page" numbers

"Checking the Installation Database Code Page"
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa367857.aspx
"a list of ASCII code pages"






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