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I am asking this question here because I asked this question in the Reporting Services Newsgroup and did not get an answer. Does anyone know if Reporting Services is intended to work in a client/Server or Local machine environment? Based on what I have seen my guess is yes but that is a guess. In some materal it talks about it running on a web server but my supposition is that this does not necessarily mean that it would not make for a good reporting tool on a local machine running SQL Server 2000. Is this correct? I think it just tacks on to SQL Server 2000 doesn't it? I would like to be able to use is Via VS.net. I am asking because to me there seems to be a gaping hole where good reports for VS.net are concerned. Crystal Reports has a robust engine but trying to make it work in a .NET environment is troublesome. Active Reports is a good product but has some limitations. Just wondering if SQL Reporting Services is a good option. The material I've seen on it looks pretty good but again, my interest is in local machine or client/server, not Web reports. Can it be simplified and used for just these purposes? Anyone? |
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Woody: I wasn't aware there was a rs newsgroup. I'm having an airhead moment and can't find it. what's the name of it? THanks, Bill "Woody Splawn" <woody (AT) splawns (DOT) com> wrote in message news:eVX#3ILGEHA.2976 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl... I am asking this question here because I asked this question in the Reporting Services Newsgroup and did not get an answer. Does anyone know if Reporting Services is intended to work in a client/Server or Local machine environment? Based on what I have seen my guess is yes but that is a guess. In some materal it talks about it running on a web server but my supposition is that this does not necessarily mean that it would not make for a good reporting tool on a local machine running SQL Server 2000. Is this correct? I think it just tacks on to SQL Server 2000 doesn't it? I would like to be able to use is Via VS.net. I am asking because to me there seems to be a gaping hole where good reports for VS.net are concerned. Crystal Reports has a robust engine but trying to make it work in a .NET environment is troublesome. Active Reports is a good product but has some limitations. Just wondering if SQL Reporting Services is a good option. The material I've seen on it looks pretty good but again, my interest is in local machine or client/server, not Web reports. Can it be simplified and used for just these purposes? Anyone? |
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I asked this same basic question a few days ago but did not receive an answer. I am an MSDN subscriber. Does anyone know if Reporting Services is intended to work in a client/server or Local machine environment? Based on what I have seen my guess is yes but that is a guess. In some materal it talks about it running on a web server but my supposition is that this does not necessarily mean that it would not make for a good reporting tool on a local machine running SQL Server 2000. Is this correct? I think it just tacks on to SQL Server 2000 doesn't it? I would like to be able to use is Via VS.net. I am asking because to me there seems to be a gaping hole where good reports for VS.net are concerned. Crystal Reports has a robust engine but trying to make it work in a .NET environment is troublesome. Active Reports is a good product but has some limitations. Just wondering if SQL Server Reporting Services is a good option. The material I've seen on it looks pretty good but again, my interest is in local machine or client/server, not Web reports. Can it be simplified and used for just these purposes? Anyone? |
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From: "Woody Splawn" <woody (AT) splawns (DOT) com References: <eVX#3ILGEHA.2976 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl Subject: Re: MS SQL Server 2000 Reporting Services Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2004 11:02:56 -0800 Lines: 96 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Message-ID: <e8dScUOGEHA.3908 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP12 (DOT) phx.gbl Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.158-60-66-fuji-dsl.static.surewest.net 66.60.158.168 Path: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP08.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTN GP12.phx.gbl Xref: cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb:192980 X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.dotnet.languages.vb For anyone interested. I posted questions in the Reporting Services newsgroup about running Reporting Services in a local machine environment and got the following replies. "The core of RS is a web service - obviously hosted on IIS. Therefore it is by definition client/server - the client is a browser or custom-built app, the server is the web server. Obviously you can run all of the components on one machine if you wanted, but this wouldn't be very scalable. SQL Server is usually best left alone on a server particularly in a BI environment where you might expect it to be running big queries. It really depends how much load you expect to put on it - a small scale reporting installation would work reasonably well hosted on one box. The other thing to note is that installing RS on an already licenced SQL box costs nothing - it is covered by the SQL licence. However, installing RS on a web server will require an extra SQL licence, even if no SQL is actually installed on that box. The report writer does indeed integrate seamlessly with VS.NET and you can create reports using VS relatively easily. You can also hook into the web service API using VS.NET and start writing your own web pages/apps to interface with it. RS ships with some samples of this. RS is a good option if you don't mind doing a bit of development work yourself, and don't have thousands to spend on Cognos et al. If you're an MSDN subscriber you might as well download it and try it..." Phil Austin I will differ from the other response you got. RS is 3 tier, not client server. Browser (or other client if you are using SOAP), web server/reporting services/sql server db for caching, and the database being reported off of. Sometimes the database used by RS is the same database you have the data being reported off of but not always. Putting all needed parts on the same PC does not make it client/server. What you are wanting is a control that does not require the server to be there in order for the reports to be render. I.e. control to put on the winform, specify the report and have the report rendered. This does not exist today. However, go to this link http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/mar04/03-26MicrosoftOLAPReport |
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where they announce that such a control is being developed. Taken from article: Furthering its move into the reporting sector, Microsoft also announced an exciting reporting feature scheduled for the next version of Reporting Services, available in SQL Server 2005. Customers are very enthusiastic about the new embeddable Visual Studio® controls that will allow distribution of report processing capabilities within packaged or custom-built applications, without the need for a separate report server. This provides application developers, ISVs and end users with greater flexibility and convenience. Extending the whole developer experience, the new functionality also is targeted to ship with Visual Studio 2005 and works both in Windows®-based and Web applications. Taken with the other capabilities of VS 2005 and it is very difficult to wait for the release. Bruce L-C "Woody Splawn" <woody (AT) splawns (DOT) com> wrote in message news:OIyIdKLGEHA.2512 (AT) TK2MSFTNGP10 (DOT) phx.gbl... I asked this same basic question a few days ago but did not receive an answer. I am an MSDN subscriber. Does anyone know if Reporting Services is intended to work in a client/server or Local machine environment? Based on what I have seen my guess is yes but that is a guess. In some materal it talks about it running on a web server but my supposition is that this does not necessarily mean that it would not make for a good reporting tool on a local machine running SQL Server 2000. Is this correct? I think it just tacks on to SQL Server 2000 doesn't it? I would like to be able to use is Via VS.net. I am asking because to me there seems to be a gaping hole where good reports for VS.net are concerned. Crystal Reports has a robust engine but trying to make it work in a .NET environment is troublesome. Active Reports is a good product but has some limitations. Just wondering if SQL Server Reporting Services is a good option. The material I've seen on it looks pretty good but again, my interest is in local machine or client/server, not Web reports. Can it be simplified and used for just these purposes? Anyone? |
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